Wzxx, her mind isn’t naive, just different from yours. You may believe that there’s a God, and if that’s what brings peace to your mind, then good for you. What she argued was that she felt as though if she has no proof and neither does anyone else that a God does exist, than how can you logically back it up? Peace of mind is just an emotion, which Ayn Rand is very strictly against. She says that she wants pure, rational, logic as a comeback. If you answer with purity of thought, then you lose.
ETAATBETA.. i never said that i needed god to bring peace to my mind but in a society that is corrupt there are many who benefit from it.. you contradicted yourself when you said you to find peace through uncertainty and doubt when uncertainty and doubt are the opposite of peace. If you search through that to be free you may find a version of freedom which leads to loneliness and isolation.. I understand your point, though it is very unorganized.. read some Erich Fromm, like escape from freedom.
WZXX……belief in god brings peace to your mind?your mind must be deluded and corrupted
I hope you can find peace on your own as a human being with all the doubt and uncertainty that that may bring,and which you must find your way through to truly be free
I must disapprove of the naive mind of ayn rand. To argue whether or not there’s a god is not the point, the point is such that the idea of god within the human mind brings about a sense of belonging which brings meaning to ones life which leads to happiness. That is the power of god, the ability to imagine him in order to being peace of the mind as well as peace among our own human species. It’s organized religion in which one may disapprove of because it instills guilt, but do not deny god.
Everyone posting here, please use appropriate language in your comments! I just deleted quite a few recent ones, because frankly, I was shocked at the choice of words some of you have. I encourage the debate, but there’s no reason to use some of the words you have been using.
is human happiness the indicator of a perfect world, or the answering of prayers. CS Lewis ince said that god always doesthe best, but what we need to fear is what the best might be.
he believes that God is the universe, pantheism. Its based on the same faith that people put into a personal god, yet people see it as more reasonable.
technicality we are all agnostic when it comes to a supreme being because we cannot dogmatically be gnostic atheist. that is why we are on the fringe of atheism but remain agnostic
Freud was certainly atheist later in life, and even considered himself an atheist. I think I was wrong, and you are right about Freud. He was from a Jewish upbringing, and concerned himself with religion a lot.
“Regarding the many reasons for man’s belief in god, Darwin wrote during the end of his life: “I cannot pretend to throw the least light on such abstruse problems. The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble to us; and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic.” (Barlow, Page – 94)”
They were not Atheist. You are misinformed or don’t know the meaning of atheism.
“In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human understanding, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views.” -Einstein
“The bigotry of the nonbeliever is for me nearly as funny as the bigotry of the believer.”
-Einstein
You think Darwin and Freud believed in a god? Your laughable! Go back to school and get a proper education. I can see your perocial christian education has done you no service. Galileo, Keplar, Copernicus as believer’s! In public I’m sure they were at risk of persecution by your intolerant war mongering cult! Seriously, I can longer argue with such an ignorant person. I see how insecure you are of your belief that you view atheists as a threat to your fairy tale.
So by your pathetic estimation, Gregor Mendel, Max Planck, Einstein, Heisenberg, Newton, Darwin, Pasteur, Sigmund Freud, Galileo, Johannes Kepler, Antoine Laurent Lavoisier, Copernicus, Michael Faraday, Erwin Schrodinger, Neils Bohr, James Clerk Maxwell, Marie Curie, Enrico Fermi, and Christiaan Huygens among many others, all have WEAK MINDS?!?!
Of course there are many atheists as notable, but I wouldn’t argue that all atheists have weak minds. That’s was my point about Ayn Rand.
you’ve said it best yourself. Religions are made up by man in order for the weak minded to be consoled about death. You people have to think that your life and world will exist, well, forever! With the same consciousness you have right now. This is the core reason for your religion. Add a magical background with pitiful fears and you have your superstitious religion. It’s people like you who are lower class with, at best, a perocial education who believe in this because it’s all you have!
I would love to get some copies of her book. It would be simply marvelous to use the pages to wipe the excremental debris from my pulsating anus!
Ayn Rand is terrific!
Wzxx, her mind isn’t naive, just different from yours. You may believe that there’s a God, and if that’s what brings peace to your mind, then good for you. What she argued was that she felt as though if she has no proof and neither does anyone else that a God does exist, than how can you logically back it up? Peace of mind is just an emotion, which Ayn Rand is very strictly against. She says that she wants pure, rational, logic as a comeback. If you answer with purity of thought, then you lose.
ETAATBETA.. i never said that i needed god to bring peace to my mind but in a society that is corrupt there are many who benefit from it.. you contradicted yourself when you said you to find peace through uncertainty and doubt when uncertainty and doubt are the opposite of peace. If you search through that to be free you may find a version of freedom which leads to loneliness and isolation.. I understand your point, though it is very unorganized.. read some Erich Fromm, like escape from freedom.
WZXX……belief in god brings peace to your mind?your mind must be deluded and corrupted
I hope you can find peace on your own as a human being with all the doubt and uncertainty that that may bring,and which you must find your way through to truly be free
I must disapprove of the naive mind of ayn rand. To argue whether or not there’s a god is not the point, the point is such that the idea of god within the human mind brings about a sense of belonging which brings meaning to ones life which leads to happiness. That is the power of god, the ability to imagine him in order to being peace of the mind as well as peace among our own human species. It’s organized religion in which one may disapprove of because it instills guilt, but do not deny god.
Religion is just a psychological crutch
Brilliant!. Ayn Rand rules!!!!
Everyone posting here, please use appropriate language in your comments! I just deleted quite a few recent ones, because frankly, I was shocked at the choice of words some of you have. I encourage the debate, but there’s no reason to use some of the words you have been using.
Thanks!
courageousjake: “Nothing spells pseudo-intellectual like an atheist bandwagoner/glomster.”
YAWNERS! that was SO an argumentatum ad hominem. omg! lol.
is human happiness the indicator of a perfect world, or the answering of prayers. CS Lewis ince said that god always doesthe best, but what we need to fear is what the best might be.
he believes that God is the universe, pantheism. Its based on the same faith that people put into a personal god, yet people see it as more reasonable.
Yes Spinoza’s God some would say, but his own statements show he was far from atheist.
Einstein believed in a personal god, that god being the beauty of nature. Nature being the laws of the universe.
technicality we are all agnostic when it comes to a supreme being because we cannot dogmatically be gnostic atheist. that is why we are on the fringe of atheism but remain agnostic
Freud was certainly atheist later in life, and even considered himself an atheist. I think I was wrong, and you are right about Freud. He was from a Jewish upbringing, and concerned himself with religion a lot.
“Regarding the many reasons for man’s belief in god, Darwin wrote during the end of his life: “I cannot pretend to throw the least light on such abstruse problems. The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble to us; and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic.” (Barlow, Page – 94)”
They were not Atheist. You are misinformed or don’t know the meaning of atheism.
“In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human understanding, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views.” -Einstein
“The bigotry of the nonbeliever is for me nearly as funny as the bigotry of the believer.”
-Einstein
I think it’s time you (beta go yonder huntin dar Mary Sue, your kin is ‘specten dinna soon) You pathetically delusional redneck!
You think Darwin and Freud believed in a god? Your laughable! Go back to school and get a proper education. I can see your perocial christian education has done you no service. Galileo, Keplar, Copernicus as believer’s! In public I’m sure they were at risk of persecution by your intolerant war mongering cult! Seriously, I can longer argue with such an ignorant person. I see how insecure you are of your belief that you view atheists as a threat to your fairy tale.
Einstein and Darwin were both atheist.
So by your pathetic estimation, Gregor Mendel, Max Planck, Einstein, Heisenberg, Newton, Darwin, Pasteur, Sigmund Freud, Galileo, Johannes Kepler, Antoine Laurent Lavoisier, Copernicus, Michael Faraday, Erwin Schrodinger, Neils Bohr, James Clerk Maxwell, Marie Curie, Enrico Fermi, and Christiaan Huygens among many others, all have WEAK MINDS?!?!
Of course there are many atheists as notable, but I wouldn’t argue that all atheists have weak minds. That’s was my point about Ayn Rand.
FSM was around before south park
you’ve said it best yourself. Religions are made up by man in order for the weak minded to be consoled about death. You people have to think that your life and world will exist, well, forever! With the same consciousness you have right now. This is the core reason for your religion. Add a magical background with pitiful fears and you have your superstitious religion. It’s people like you who are lower class with, at best, a perocial education who believe in this because it’s all you have!
rand was an athiest before it was cool.